En la actualidad tenemos tres andares diagonales, Trote y Galope, Trocha y Galope, El origen del Caballo Criollo Colombiano, se remonta a la época de. Andares del Caballo Criollo Colombiano. Primera aplicación enfocada al Caballo Criollo Colombiano.
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I recently decided to andarfs by this page, half knowing and half expecting I would find something absurd and sure enough I andarew. To state that an lbs Paso Fino could carry a 6′ lbs person with ease over all sorts of terrain is not only fraudulent but reprehensible. This is light boned horse, not only that, it is a light boned horse than can be prone to ringbone as well as deep suspensory ligament desmitis.
It is true that this breed’s gaiting does well on trails and I can say from experience the smoothness of the gait is great for therapeutic riding, especially copombiano the rider suffers from forms of chronic pain, but the people promoting them as the end all horse that can even carry colimbiano over the hill obese aunt are doing this breed a disservice.
Please have some accountability, please be honest, because these are not heavy hauling animals. I edited the article to reflect some of my thoughts on this, and I will return to flesh it out with more information and citations.
And perhaps a username. It doesn’t take much googling to come up with some results. I found plenty other sites talking about it, however most of those were blogs or forums. Now, if you look into a Paso’s ability to carry heavy weight, you’ll find a lot of people praising them for their ability to carry heavy weight.
You’ll even find the paragraph from the wiki copied exactly on alot of pages. It is a sleazy element of the Paso Fino community that makes a significant amount of money marketing these horses to overweight or older equestrians and has little basis. Again, this is a small light boned horse developed by smaller, lighter people than we have today.
Whether a topic is controversial is moot. If a breed has shortcomings or health issues that can occur, people should be aware of it.
If anything to make claims that can endanger an animal’s health is as I mentioned earlier, reprehensible. A short back doesn’t mean much if you take into consideration the amount of tension and stress the high frequency gaiting.
Combine that with the tendency to ride on paved surfaces, with a heavier rider, and you have a recipe for disaster. I know that without sources I’m kind of just spitting in the wind, and lot of breeders are trying to get stronger bone in their genetics, but it a petite “pretty horse”. Again, I don’t mean that as an insult or to say it’ll break just under the weight of the saddle alone. The difference between the Arabian and the Paso Fino is that Arabs don’t have to deal with nearly as much exstensor strain or stress because they don’t have the same gaiting or confirmation as a Paso Fino.
However, whenever this subject is broached around Pasu Finos you will typically get a knee jerk reaction and an angry response that DSLD is a Peruvian problem, not a Paso Fino problem.
It’s more widely recognized and acknowledged in Peruvians, but it is still found in Paso Finos as well. My intent is not to malign Actually, I don’t mind if the people wanting to hush the issue feel slighted the breed. I have several Paso Finos, of columbian and Puerto Rican varieties and one a mixture of the two.
That right there I have no interest in debating, so please no gnashing of the teeth or bashing over “diluting bloodlines. And the very notion that this breed can carry heavy weight with no problems is not just untrue, it is a malicious lie. This is the first page that comes up when searching for “Paso Fino”. If the veterinarian sources I posted aren’t good enough, at least let them be good enough to ixnaythe whole ludicrous notion of them being the go to horse for heavyweight people who want a small pretty horse.
Hi Arsdelicata Continuing discussion begun over on the user talk pages. Basically, this article needs several things.
Most of all, more footnotes to legitimate, respected source material.
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There are a few, but not nearly enough. Second, the information needs to be well-written and accurate without sounding like a promotional brochure. I am going to wordsmith some of what you wrote to that end. From what research has been done on this article andxres date, the viewpoint of some of the USA and other English-speaking Paso Fino organizations, the Columbian and Puerto Rican horses are just two strains of essentially the same breed and they are in fact crossbred here to at least some extent.
However, in the past, the supporters of the Puerto Rican strain have been extremely rude and have edited the article in ways that are too biased. NPOV for the basic overview of how an encyclopedia needs to have a neutral viewpoint.
Bottom line is that there needs to be an overall better quality article, such as outlined by the criteria for Colonbiano articles.
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It isn’t a crisis or a rush, more of a process. But we collmbiano glad to help out as needed. Another place to see andages is needed is the Quality scale. Our goal is to get the horse articles to at least B-class whenever possible.
For another example of an article that is in the process of being improved and is well on its way to B-class maybe already there, I need to reassesssee Banker Horse. Competitions in PFHA judge gait standards and not breed standards.
I would place the andadura gait as very similar to the super tolt of the islandic. On Columbus, I have little faith in any horse books and advise that we look for stuff that directly cites primary source material that says when Columbus or Ponce de leon, or whomever brought horses — it was well documented, we just have to find it. Google Books can sometimes be helpful for that.
As for the Colombian, Puerto Rican and other “Paso” and “Paso Finos,” I wonder if we need to generate a list here or elsewhere of ALL the various breeds that fall into this “gaited horses of Latin America” category maybe THAT is also a new article, a spin off from Gaited horseor maybe a subsection of the gaited horse article — which also begs the question of if we wanted to break down breeds geographically the way the Kentucky Horse Park site does Crioklo, back to the Pasos, do colpmbiano need to figure out a family tree?
Seems to me one question is when the Colombian and Puerto Rican strains diverged, when one separated from the other, the extent to which they have been crossbred back, etc It is all pretty fascinating.
If you want a comparison, look at what we did with the history section on Thoroughbred. But, I can’t find the word Modality in English online dictionaries, to get it translated to Spanish. But, this Lipizzaner Horse book uses it. Going to look back to the word Modality in Music you gave me. In horse lingo, I think the word we want is “form. Ok, since reading many sources I strongly think that “Modality” means Gait, Air or way of going.
The PFHA rules and registration use it to refer to the gait of an crio,lo horse as well as it’s sire and dam especially since the Colombian Criollo comes in three gaits called “Modalities. The Paso Fino Breed in Puerto Rico has only one “Modality” and that is a beat with levels in extension, and added racing gait is the pace, that some Paso Finos perform when pressured to go or raced, called “Andadura” much like a pace. Gaztambide writes it was used for emergencies, and also in races in the s, before TBs were imported specifically for racing.
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What do you think? Ok, then we will say gait instead of form What gets me is the different versions. Fel is no version cdiollo the USA to define andadura, but Gaztambide does an ok job. Or, we can have Colombian Paso Categories as they have it, Paso Fino, Trocha, and trot with the galope as well, then the Crioloo categories, and then the different levels of extension named in the Puerto Rican Paso Fino all the way up to “andadura” that compares to the Flying pace of the islandic.
The Puerto Rican Paso Fino is pretty much the same, with the pace being allowed for racing, but a fault at slower speed. And yes, a gallery is OK for discussion here.
I’ll list what I think are the Latin American breeds, at least as we have them at list of horse breedsand “strains” under the respective breed. By the way, the Pasos aren’t the only people with this discussion. See the Arabian horse article, purity controversy section. But back to the point, here’s a start. Rearrange as you think they should go, keep wikilinking:. And I am going to be very, very naughty and admit that from the photos above, I can’t tell the difference, they all look pretty similar to me!
Not really separate breeds, if the word Paso alone is used, as some people call them Colombian Pasos. No mention of Strains except here? Colombia has these categories for it’s horses. Most horses trot, but to trot does not define anadres breed right? Where is the word “Strain” Coming from? I like what you did above Montanabw. As time lets me I’ll elaborate and add to the article in this structure. The new breeds, gee I don’t know, as long as they give the founding date.
I’ll go read them. Oh and as for Columbus, Diaz is definietly one of the earliest people to write about the Columbis voyages, if his works mention what horses were brought when and to where, that is a virtually unimpeachable source as to those specific facts. I think I might have a translation of Diaz somewhere, buried in a bookshelf, will look Spanish Jennet Horse Well, they don’t list the founding date on wiki?
Where do they get the color? Well they don’t say. Don’t really feel like having to research them more. At least not now. I wonder what is going to happen to the foals that don’t inherit the gait or the markings from the cross.
I see there is a redirect to German Shepherd from the Panda Shepherd. White dogs were once allowed but albino’s discouraged, they changed the standard to eliminate white from the show ring, recessive white. But at least they explain what they are in most cases. I think the two white articles might merge eventually.
I have my hands full with the Paso Fino stuff for now, so I’ll work on that. It is generally accepted, that the word Paso Fino came from Puerto Rico, but then the claim to making it a famous word is what seems to be a fight between Colombia and The United States. However this law is not applicable to my knowledge anywhere else.
Puerto Rican Paso Fino Now for the Colombian Paso Fino this link to Colombian Senate Defines the Breed name as the “Caballo Criollo Colombiano”, or Colombian Criollo Horse, and in its last paragraph states that this is because of the utilization of the breed in other countries like United States and Puerto Rico, which are one country actually with the end of creating their own examples in order to say they posses a horse fine of step.